Jacking points

[tonyhosk]

Hi folks

I wonder if anyone has any photos of what a sound jacking point structure should look like? As you see from the photos, my left side one is beyond saving and the right side is missing completely!

Tony

 

[canuck]

Hello Tony

Unfortunately I am nowhere near my car right now or I would gladly snap a photo for you.

If you forgive me for the quality of the 'sketch' below I try to show you what this jack tenon tube looks like. (click on to enlarge) 



 So;
the 'square' tube is sized to fit the tenon on the jack itself. There is a 'T' section welded to the top surface to such a height that the 'square' tube outer edge just abuts to lower edge of the outer sill flange and the for/aft 'T' piece is tight to sill bottom and the athwartships section tight to the cross support.  Horizontal & square is understood. 

My sketch above is not to scale. If memory serves me your 'square' lengths shown seem correct, (10 cm's in length?)   

FWIW this piece will be the last part to be installed after floor & sill repairs. 

If you need more precision I will probably be at my cars in a few weeks. I can then snap a photo of te actual OE part.

Best of luck with your repair.

Bruce

[tonyhosk]

Many thanks Bruce - that is really useful info, particularly the fore & aft T piece.

As you will gather from the photos, there is no rush! I have made up new inner sills and replacement floor panels, but I am awaiting outer sill repair panels before putting it all together, and that ignores the repairs needed to the cross support, the rear wheel arches, lower rear wings and the boxlike rear shackle support assemblies! If you might get a chance to snap a photo in the next month or two, that would be great.

Tony

[canuck]

Hi Tony,

No worries the week following Easter I should have some free time to get to my cars.
In fact I want to get to my cars, spring is finally arriving here and I should think in a few weeks the roads should be salt free, 

I will snap a couple of photos and  post here. The photos will tell how good my fading memory is/was 

You are serving as inspiration as my car needs the same sort of loving you are knee deep into.

Keep well

Bruce

[canuck]

Hello Tony
Apologies  for not getting back to you sooner. Life & Covid are wreaking havoc these days. My memory provided false info as to shape etc. in my earlier post and FWIW these are quite a complicated assembly. 
The jacking pints are fixed to the car body at the the aft side of the main crossmember.

Below I attempt show some views of my rusty soon to be rectified sills with details of the jacking points.

1) looking foreword LH side


2) side on RH side showing 2 part construction. The spot welds can bee seen in the previous photo.


3) looking foreword RH side



Bruce

[canuck]

Tony
A couple more showing the dimensions. Both of these are RH side looking foreword.






Clicking on each photo will enlarge it. 

I hope this helps.

Bruce

[tonyhosk]

Hi Bruce

thank you so much for going to all the trouble of photographing and measuring the jacking points for me. As you say - complicated structures, so thinking cap now on!!

Tony

[canuck]

Hello Tony
You are most welcome. This was no problem for me to do. I do need to tuck into this sill repair and hopefully taking these photos for you will serve as impetus. 

One more detail for you to think about.





The vertical 'support' of this assembly has short horizontal flanges where it meets the sill and the cross beam.  Difficult to see in the rust monotone colours of the photos. 

All the best with your fabrication, fitting & welding.


Bruce 

[tonyhosk]

I'll let you know how I get on!

Thanks again

Tony

[tomsayles]

I am just finishing my 1500 restoration. When I asked a friend the same question , his response was 'why bother, you will never use them anyway , the jack with the car is dangerous !! I carry a lightweight trolley jack '

I followed his suggestion and didn't bother with the jacking points, but bought a good lightweight trolley jack to use with all my cars. If, after my time someone else wants to weld on the said items, that is up to them !!

Tom

[tonyhosk]

Tom

I've been debating with myself exactly the same question! I would only remake the jacking points for authenticity (pedantry) and agree completely would never lift an old car on its jacking points. I carry bottle jacks and wood in mine in case needed. I have got to fabricate the last 10cm or so of the cross members anyway and weld to the new inner sills and repair floor panels - I'll think about the jacking points after that.

How extensive was your restoration?

Tony

[tomsayles]

Dear Tony,

this is my fourth attempt at a response - trying to attach photographs defeats me every time !!!

I did a full rebuild using the car I purchased which had huge issues and a 'scrap' car I bought from Newcastle which had been rear-ended and written off. I replaced floor pan, lower bulkhead, front cross member, inner wings, cilles and transferred doors, bonnet  seats, headlining etc . The worst bits were the window channels and weatherstrip (Aagh!!)

Car is not bare metal resprayed and bumpers etc re-chromed awaiting fitment

So, a fairly comprehensive job, but I just couldn't see the point in fitting jacking points which I will never use - someone else can do that in the future if they wish.

I won't attempt to add photos to this reply, but may send a subsequent one if I can work out how to do it 

Tom

[Mabel]

My 1.5 didn’t have any jacking points when I bought it. It still hasn’t and it’ll stay that way. In need, i always keep a small bottle jack in the boot.

[tonyhosk]

Hello Tom

Sounds like a real labour of love. Good that you had a 'donor' car to pick the best bits of both - apart from the smashed up rear end of course. Hope you sort out the photos as I'm sure we all like to see a finished result in all its glory.

Tony