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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 9, 2016 20:24:06 GMT
I seem to remember Dad always kept a spare one "in case of need".
Is there a good replacement about these days that goes recommended for a 1965 1.5?
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Post by canuck on Jan 9, 2016 20:39:12 GMT
Do you have this OE model pump installed?
Fuel pumps have progressed some since our cars were new. This pump above is the OE positive earth SU pump but converted to solid state trigger vs contact breaker trigger. This is now trouble free, particularly as the contact breaker type pump does not always respond well to durations of storage, the contacts can develop a film or glaze that needs cleaning off to work well. If concerned with reliability you could always install a back up (cheapo aftermarket) in line with the main pump. If something goes wrong a flip of the switch and you are on your way until you have the chance to address the OE pump.
Have a read here , article on installing this back up pump, "just in case" (although specific to the MGB install you can understand how to easily do this on your Riley)
homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/Fuel_Pumps/Back_up_Fuel_Pump.pdf
this chap, Dave Dubois is a SU fuel pump guru in North America, I have had many pumps converted to solid state by him.
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Post by rgswisstex on Jan 9, 2016 20:44:04 GMT
I used Dave to convert mine, Rolf
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 9, 2016 22:46:27 GMT
Thanks both, I shall investigate.
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Post by polly on Jan 12, 2016 20:40:55 GMT
Thanks both, I shall investigate. hello, why not buy a modern one from BURLEN electronic and all!! £80.40 brill exact fit as original
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 12, 2016 20:49:24 GMT
Thanks both, I shall investigate. hello, why not buy a modern one from BURLEN electronic and all!! £80.40 brill exact fit as original Thanks I'll take a look at that too.
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Post by canuck on Jan 12, 2016 22:40:09 GMT
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 12, 2016 22:50:03 GMT
Car is negative earth so no worries there.
Presumably we are just suggesting to add a back up pump for ease of road side failure?
So, at some stage, we could replace the existing pump with a more modern Burlen one and also the back up one as suggested.
Sound like a plan?
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Post by canuck on Jan 13, 2016 12:03:53 GMT
Presumably we are just suggesting to add a back up pump for ease of road side failure? So we could replace the existing pump with a more modern Burlen one and also the back up one as suggested. Sound like a plan?
A solid plan. FWIW a 'modern' Burlen pump is the OE SU type with electronic trigger, which are earth sensitive. You never told us what type pump you have installed presently? is it still mounted in the boot?
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 13, 2016 12:08:02 GMT
Presumably we are just suggesting to add a back up pump for ease of road side failure? So we could replace the existing pump with a more modern Burlen one and also the back up one as suggested. Sound like a plan?
A solid plan. FWIW a 'modern' Burlen pump is the OE SU type with electronic trigger, which are earth sensitive. You never told us what type pump you have installed presently? is it still mounted in the boot?
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Yes it's in the boot. I haven't come back to the thread yet as I haven't looked. Car is not in garage and it's been wet and cold of an evening so the draw of a warm fire has taken priority this week.
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 17, 2016 12:42:40 GMT
This is the fuel pump it has at present. Is this original, new or replacement?
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Post by canuck on Jan 18, 2016 13:07:38 GMT
Hello DLM, (sorry I do not know your name) Good stuff! The pump you show appears to be correct for a MK3 model year but probably not original, remember this was a very long time ago. This pump looks to be a SU AUF214 and most likely points trigger, and pressure output is correct for the carburetters. One thing to check, and this does appear to be all right, is the orientation of the outlet. This is cast into the ring on the bottom of the pump, and reads something like, "position outlet at top" or the like. My advice is if it is working just leave well enough alone. You can plumb in an emergency back up pump, if you feel fit, per the instruction posted previously and this is quite a straight exercise forward. I will mention, and I mean no disrespect, the wiring you show would benefit from a clean up. I am sure this is on your 'to do' list. One other piece of the puzzle that you may have in box of spares, is the fuel pump cover and boot lid support, as below.
I do not think this cover is needed for boot lid support as you have counter balance springs for the lid on your car, however on a MK1 car the boot lid prop rod applies quite a bit of load on this boot opening frame. FWIW my wife would not allow me to put any luggage in the boot until I installed this cover.
Bruce
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Post by deltalimamike on Jan 18, 2016 16:47:30 GMT
Thanks Bruce.
My name is Darren.
All sounds good then and I will proceed as advised.
The wiring is shocking but thankfully something I am confident enough to a have a go at.
All we did yesterday was put electrical tape around the live wire that was just swinging around without a care in the world!
As you know, the to do list is lengthy and it's sometimes hard to prioritise where to start.....
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Post by deltalimamike on Jul 26, 2020 7:40:15 GMT
4 years later, wiring tidying done and new pump fitted.
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Post by 2robert4 on Jul 26, 2020 8:47:45 GMT
Nice job!
It just goes to show that life gets in the way sometimes.
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