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Post by jonnyb on Oct 15, 2023 15:15:56 GMT
Gordon the only tyres I could find were the Nankang 155/80 from various suppliers, and Toyo 155/80 from ESM, they had a batch specially made for them by Toyo. I went for the Toyos.
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Post by cygnet61 on Oct 15, 2023 16:25:04 GMT
Hello Gordon, You may have the undesirable combination of road wheel and tyre. The tyre I experienced tie rod end interference with was the fitting of the Nankang tyre. This tyre mounted to the ESM offering 4.5" wide steel wheel. I am not near my car to check dims. FWIW I am fitting other wheels and tyres now as the Nankang tyre was wearing enough, (+18K miles) for replacement and wanted to try something else. I never felt 'sure footed' with that Nankang tyre, I think the side walls a tad soft . I am fitting a 155/80 R Toyo tyre to an early model MGB steel wheel . B Thank you Bruce, I think! Do you happen to know how the extra 1.5” inches of the wider Morris wheel is distributed, ie how much to the outside and how much to the inside? Cheers Gordon
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Post by cygnet61 on Oct 15, 2023 16:28:02 GMT
Gordon the only tyres I could find were the Nankang 155/80 from various suppliers, and Toyo 155/80 from ESM, they had a batch specially made for them by Toyo. I went for the Toyos. Thank you John The Toyos do look nicer than the Nankangs. Hopefully my Nankangs will work okay with the 4.5” rims. Cheers Gordon
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Post by kiwimc on Oct 15, 2023 18:39:48 GMT
Hi Gordon, my 165/80s are Vredestein Sprint Classic (https://www.vredestein.com/classic-tires/products/990-SPRINT-CLASSIC/). Very nice but they were horrifically expensive to land in NZ. Sorry I can't answer for the Nankangs. Good luck, John
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Post by cygnet61 on Oct 16, 2023 6:07:09 GMT
Hi Gordon, my 165/80s are Vredestein Sprint Classic (https://www.vredestein.com/classic-tires/products/990-SPRINT-CLASSIC/). Very nice but they were horrifically expensive to land in NZ. Sorry I can't answer for the Nankangs. Good luck, John
Thanks John That’s a good looking tyre. And yes, I see what you mean about the price - ouch. Cheers Gordon
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Post by kiwimc on Oct 18, 2023 9:29:24 GMT
Here are some measurements of original LP917 4.5" rims and a standard 3" (Mog/1500/1.5) rim. The measurements are from the OUTSIDE edges and not between the beads where the tyre sits. Apologies for over-simplicity of my cartoons. Note that 2/3 of the extra width is inboard.
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Post by cygnet61 on Oct 18, 2023 16:11:07 GMT
Here are some measurements of original LP917 4.5" rims and a standard 3" (Mog/1500/1.5) rim. The measurements are from the OUTSIDE edges and not between the beads where the tyre sits. Apologies for over-simplicity of my cartoons. Note that 2/3 of the extra width is inboard.
Hello John That’s great, just what I needed to know. Thanks very much. Gordon
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Post by tonyhosk on Oct 20, 2023 14:28:19 GMT
Word of warning!
I fitted slightly narrower 145.14 Blockley radials to my new 4.5 MM van rims - look fine and clear everything. However, I ordered five and fitted the fifth one in the spare tyre compartment. It was a tight fit, but I thought little of it until I tried to remove it! What a job - had to get an accomplice to lever up the boot floor with a piece of wood while I struggled to get a grip on it. Finally got there but you would never get it out roadside. Obviously it is the 4.5 rim that increases the tyre width, so I'd advise fitting a 3" wheel for the spare, whether you use an old narrower tyre or a 165 section - my car came with old (!) 165 radial on a 3" rim and fitted the spare compartment comfortably. I'm having my new fifth Blockley refitted on the old 3" rim before I take the car on the road!
Tony
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Post by cygnet61 on Oct 20, 2023 14:49:23 GMT
Good point Tony. I have seen previous posts highlighting this and I will be getting four wider wheels and keeping the 3” spare. I know that if the spare was used it would mean different width wheels on the axle, but that’s no different than using a modern “space saver” spare wheel.
Cheers Gordon
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Post by canuck on Oct 21, 2023 14:23:16 GMT
Tony Thanks for the PSA, (public service announcement) and any of us that have done this wider wheel installation find out quickly just how tight the space is in the spare wheel compartment. Like Gordon I keep a 3" OE wheel, with the old tire for a spare. If it holds air that is all I need. I rarely venture more than a few hundred miles from home and the spare will get me home. Repairing the wider wheel tire if a puncture will be a priority. B
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Post by cygnet61 on Mar 30, 2024 13:29:37 GMT
I recently took the plunge and bought four 4 1/2 inch wheels from ESM. I had meant to get some last year but didn’t get round to it which has turned out to work in my favour as they now supply these wheels in silver as well as the cream which is all they used to have. So I now don’t need to paint them. Mindful of Bruce’s comment on clearance I test fitted one and sure enough the tyre just rubs on the track rod end boot. The track rod ends are original with quite wide boots so I have bought some replacements with smaller boots which I think with give clearance. I’ve also bought new rack gaiters as they are perished and this will obviously be a good time to get them changed as well. I’ll report again once I’ve had the gaiters and joints fitted. Cheers Gordon
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